Goto page 1, -:: Author Message derbymute Veteran Member Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 342 Location: France Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:45 pm Post subject: Selmer Paris cornet serial number list - help wanted! I'm hoping to put together an accurate as possible list for Selmer Paris cornets.
1954 selmer paris 'balanced trumpet' 24a serial no.14594 - $1,499.00. This is a 1954 Paris Selmer 24a serial number #14594. I love this trumpet and don't want to sell it but due to health conditions, I must. Serial Number Ranges By Model • Full Serial Number Chart; Selmer Serial Number Ranges By Model. Although, as the chart below illustrates, the Mark VI was produced until (roughly) serial #378000, this applies only to the Sopranino model.
The s/n lists online are for trumpets ONLY. If you have an accurate date that you have obtained from Selmer or some other means of accurate dating, can you let me know, please? If you don't want to give me the whole s/n, even a partial number, like 145x, would be fine.
Thank you, Chris Cornets: Selmer model #43 Selmer Concept Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil) 1923 Buescher shepherd's crook 1880 F. Besson Paris Trumpets: 1931 Cleveland Greyhound 1935 Olds French model FrankM Heavyweight Member Joined: 11 Feb 2011 Posts: 530 Location: Lincolnshire England Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:43 am Post subject: Hi Chris.
Do you know about this site? Cheers, Frank Fairly large collection. Favourites:- Eclipse Bb Tpt Yamaha 6335H Bb Tpt Besson Meha Bb Tpt Selmer 99 Radial Conn Connstelation 36B Conn Connstelation 28A B&H Sovereign Cornet Yamaha 635T Flugel Horn. Derbymute Veteran Member Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 342 Location: France Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:02 am Post subject: Yes, I do know about that site.
But there is no information about cornets there. There is no information regarding the cornet serial numbers anywhere on the 'net. Cornets: Selmer model #43 Selmer Concept Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil) 1923 Buescher shepherd's crook 1880 F. Besson Paris Trumpets: 1931 Cleveland Greyhound 1935 Olds French model TheBrassBandMajor Veteran Member Joined: 19 Nov 2014 Posts: 263 Location: New Zealand Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:44 am Post subject: HI derbymute! I've just pulled a list from Conn Selmer with a list of serial numbers for Selmer Paris not sure if it's a cornet one Vincent Bach Mt Vernon Mercedes B&S Challenger 3137/I Hermann Ganter G7aN A.Windisch Silber-Deluxe, Dresden Couesnon 'Triebert Moderne' piccolo Conn 'Connstellation' 28A SO many more trumpets.
Dupac Regular Member Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 54 Location: Bordeaux, France Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 4:30 am Post subject: My C/Bb Selmer Paris cornet was made in 1964. I bought it myself. It's s/n is 3507. Mikel Dupac / Lawler C7-3R-1A + Prana B6S1R Olds Super '63 - Conn New Wonder cornet '17 Couesnon fgl ‘48 Music healing force of Universe derbymute Veteran Member Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 342 Location: France Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:45 am Post subject: BrassBandMajor - that list is for saxophones. There is a trumpet only list at horn-u-copia.net Cornets: Selmer model #43 Selmer Concept Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil) 1923 Buescher shepherd's crook 1880 F. Besson Paris Trumpets: 1931 Cleveland Greyhound 1935 Olds French model derbymute Veteran Member Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 342 Location: France Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:46 am Post subject: dupac wrote: My C/Bb Selmer Paris cornet was made in 1964.
I bought it myself. It's s/n is 3507. Thanks very much. Cornets: Selmer model #43 Selmer Concept Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil) 1923 Buescher shepherd's crook 1880 F.
Besson Paris Trumpets: 1931 Cleveland Greyhound 1935 Olds French model derbymute Veteran Member Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 342 Location: France Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:49 am Post subject: Dupac - does yours have a removable leadpipe? I have seen the Bb/C model with both a fixed and removable leadpipe. It may be the earlier ones, which seem to be from circa the late 1950s, had the removable leadpipe. Cornets: Selmer model #43 Selmer Concept Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil) 1923 Buescher shepherd's crook 1880 F. Besson Paris Trumpets: 1931 Cleveland Greyhound 1935 Olds French model derbymute Veteran Member Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 342 Location: France Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:02 am Post subject: The list so far: 442:1938 approx. 900 and earlier: pre 1942 1248: June 1957 1639 kmod: May 1957 2059: 1959 3507: 1964 The long model cornet which is the most common Selmer cornet, may have been introduced circa 1936-37, although 427 is the earliest serial number I've seen. A 1936 catalog doesn't have a long model cornet, but I have seen a photo of one from that year, or 1937.
When the K-modified was introduced the horn was redesigned with a wider wrap (vertically). This was later than the date of 1954 which is shown on selmer.fr website.
The earliest K-mod cornet I have knowledge of is the one listed above from May 1957. There was another redesign of the long model in the 1970s. The highest serial number I've found, of the redesigned horn, is 4296.
Selmer introduced the Concept cornet in the 2000s and they have a different series of serial numbers. Cornets: Selmer model #43 Selmer Concept Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil) 1923 Buescher shepherd's crook 1880 F. Besson Paris Trumpets: 1931 Cleveland Greyhound 1935 Olds French model Last edited by derbymute on Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:51 pm; edited 2 times in total dupac Regular Member Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Posts: 54 Location: Bordeaux, France Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:09 am Post subject: No removable leadpipe. But an extension of the main tuning slide to use the cornet in Bb. I use it only in C, without that extension. Mikel Dupac / Lawler C7-3R-1A + Prana B6S1R Olds Super '63 - Conn New Wonder cornet '17 Couesnon fgl ‘48 Music healing force of Universe derbymute Veteran Member Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 342 Location: France Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:37 am Post subject: Thanks, Mikel. Selmer may have discontinued the removable leadpipe in favor of a fixed.
Cornet 173x has a removable leadpipe. Cornets: Selmer model #43 Selmer Concept Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil) 1923 Buescher shepherd's crook 1880 F.
Besson Paris Trumpets: 1931 Cleveland Greyhound 1935 Olds French model markfreitas New Member Joined: 28 Dec 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Willmar, MN USA Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:01 am Post subject: derbymute wrote: The list so far: 442:1938 approx. 900 and earlier: pre 1942 1248: June 1957 1639 kmod: May 1957 2059: 1959 3507: 1964 The long model cornet which is the most common Selmer cornet, may have been introduced circa 1936-37, although 427 is the earliest serial number I've seen. A 1936 catalog doesn't have a long model cornet, but I have seen a photo of one from that year, or 1937.
When the K-modified was introduced the horn was redesigned with a wider wrap (vertically). This was later than the date of 1954 which is shown on selmer.fr website. The earliest K-mod cornet I have knowledge of is the one listed above from May 1957. There was another redesign of the long model in the 1970s. The highest serial number I've found, of the redesigned horn, is 4296. Selmer introduced the Concept cornet in the 2000s and they have a different series of serial numbers.
I'm working on a long model Selmer Paris cornet with ser. What year would that be from? It has all original parts, including a first slide trigger and tuning slide crook that bends out away from the first slide (by design). Derbymute Veteran Member Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 342 Location: France Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:43 pm Post subject: markfreitas wrote: I'm working on a long model Selmer Paris cornet with ser. What year would that be from? It has all original parts, including a first slide trigger and tuning slide crook that bends out away from the first slide (by design). Likely 1937 or 1938.
You can write directly to, in English, and they will give you the month and year it was made. Cornets: Selmer model #43 Selmer Concept Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil) 1923 Buescher shepherd's crook 1880 F. Besson Paris Trumpets: 1931 Cleveland Greyhound 1935 Olds French model markfreitas New Member Joined: 28 Dec 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Willmar, MN USA Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:45 am Post subject: Likely 1937 or 1938. You can write directly to, in English, and they will give you the month and year it was made./quote - Thanks for the info. I have some questions about Selmer Paris trumpets for them, too!
Markfreitas New Member Joined: 28 Dec 2008 Posts: 4 Location: Willmar, MN USA Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:01 am Post subject: markfreitas wrote: Likely 1937 or 1938. You can write directly to, in English, and they will give you the month and year it was made. Thanks for the info. I have some questions about Selmer Paris trumpets for them, too!/quote - Update: Selmer Paris says the cornet #396 was made in July 1938. Model 22 trumpet #6647 is from March 1948.
Model 19 trumpet #4209 is from Oct. All 3 horns may be for sale in the Fall. ChopsGone Heavyweight Member Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 1776 Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 8:30 am Post subject: I can't provide an exact date for it, but I have a large-bore K-modified cornet with serial number 23XX. The case is the same gray zippered design as a K-modified trumpet I have, #228., which dates to 1959.
Vintage Olds & Reynolds & Selmers galore Aubertins, Bessons, Calicchios, Courtois, Wild Things, Marcinkiewicz, Ogilbee Thumpet, DeNicola Puje, Kanstuls. Derbymute Veteran Member Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 342 Location: France Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 12:46 pm Post subject: ChopsGone wrote: I can't provide an exact date for it, but I have a large-bore K-modified cornet with serial number 23XX. The case is the same gray zippered design as a K-modified trumpet I have, #228., which dates to 1959. Your cornet is likely from the same time as your trumpet, 1959. If you want the exact date, just send an email to and they will get back to you with the month and year.
But do let me know so I can add it to my list! Cornets: Selmer model #43 Selmer Concept Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil) 1923 Buescher shepherd's crook 1880 F. Besson Paris Trumpets: 1931 Cleveland Greyhound 1935 Olds French model Stanbat New Member Joined: 28 Nov 2017 Posts: 3 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:30 pm Post subject: Greetings: I have a Selmer Long Cornet with serial number 580. I emailed Selmer, and here was their response: 'Dear Sir, Unfortunately that serial doesn't appear in our old databooks.
Probably manufactured around 1949 or 1950. No more information unfortunately. Sorry for the inconvenience.'
Lovely dark mellow tone, and amazing details, nothing like something modern. Peace, Tony derbymute Veteran Member Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 342 Location: France Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:04 am Post subject: Stanbat wrote: Greetings: I have a Selmer Long Cornet with serial number 580. I emailed Selmer, and here was their response: 'Dear Sir, Unfortunately that serial doesn't appear in our old databooks. Probably manufactured around 1949 or 1950. No more information unfortunately. Sorry for the inconvenience.' Lovely dark mellow tone, and amazing details, nothing like something modern.
Did you email Selmer US, or Selmer France (selmer.fr)? The latter is the one to email. US Selmer doesn't have info on the French made horns. According to information I've assembled from selmer.fr, your horn would be late 1930s, early 1940s. Cornets: Selmer model #43 Selmer Concept Baldwin Custom (Blessing Artist stencil) 1923 Buescher shepherd's crook 1880 F. Besson Paris Trumpets: 1931 Cleveland Greyhound 1935 Olds French model Stanbat New Member Joined: 28 Nov 2017 Posts: 3 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:25 am Post subject: Hi, sorry, did not mention that the reply I got was from Thierry Doublon at Selmer.fr. Peace, Tony Display posts from previous: - All times are GMT - 8 Hours Goto page 1, Page 1 of 2 Jump to: You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum.